Comments on: Women will lead Generation Y – what will men do?

By: Deep Think

Deep Think — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:02:00 +0000

I call into question why Independentpro129 refers to the “New ” man as feminine men. Why can’t the new man be masquline?Is the author implying that masqulinity is itself evil?Is the implication the author wants to convey is that the ole nursery rhyme is true? “What are little boys made of?Snapping Turtles and puppy dog tails. and what are little girls made of?Sugar and spices and all thing nices”?

Also does not the author known that labeling the new man as feminine is the surest way to keep men from adopting these qualities that will bring about the world peace the author apparently desires? Real men do not want to get in touch with their so called feminine side. Real men want to be men not women in men’s bodies.

Perhaps As a society we need to drop the labels feminine and masquline because we want people to develop the better traits. If by chance and, I know this is hard for feminest to believe, but to emphasize a point here let us say that inventiveness is identified as a masquline trait.Would this possibly keep women who want to be women from developing this alleged masquline trait even though its a good trait because they don’t want to be seen as more masquline? This would be a shame for the world would loose out on the tremendous ammount of inventive tallent of our female population.

By dropping the labes feminine and masquline and lumpping the traits together as simply human traits frees up both genders to cultivate their finer traits without fear of either gender becoming more feminine or masquline.This I believe has the best chance of creating in both genders the characeter traits the author desires in order to bring about world peace.
Deep Think

By: Deep Think

Deep Think — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 17:36:00 +0000

Hi Chris:
You wrote: I believe I read an article somewhere that one out of four twelve year old girls living today will have to settle for a husband or boyfriend with only a high school education once they’ve graduated from college. You write as if this is some dreadful thing if girls have to mary males less well educated. Males have always been willing to marry women who were less well educated. Less well educated girls did not prevent men from being able to love them. Men did not regard as apparently Generation Y girls do that less well educated males are inferior or not worth marrying .
The possible reason girls aren’t as willing to marry less educated males is because whereas male attraction for females was largely bassed upon sex, girls attraction for males is bassed upon provission and protection because in ancient times women needed men for provission and protection but now that generation y girls are making more money they are no longer dependent upon men for provission and the only protection women need to day is protection from abusers as in doemestic violence.
But the reason girls are now out competeing males for the best highest paying jobs is because girls are out performing boys in education and this is because of two main reason. 1. the educational system is skewed in favor of girls in a variety of ways chief of which is that 70% of the grade value is placed upon course work which girls have natural traits that enable them to excel over boys and 30% of a student’s grade value is determined by exams which boys excel in. Therefor the educational system plays to the strength of females and to the weakness of males.
2. Girls are constantly being told that in order to get their fair share of the best jobs they have to out shine the boys. Therefor girls are fear motivated to excel accademicaly. therefor girls work harder than boys.
Is it any wonder than that girls are out performing males? Already we are see ing marrage rate in decline. Why Because generation Y girls don’t think they need men anymore. They can now even procreate with out males because feemale sperm can now be produced from female bone marrow that when added to the Uterus will creat a girl baby. Thus if we don’t wake the boys up to how they are being set up to fail we could see the end of men. Welcome to the new world order. I have seen the future and the future is wearing a skirt.
Deep Think

By: Jeez

Jeez — Tue, 27 Mar 2012 06:37:00 +0000

This is so interesting, ever since I saw Phillip Z’s Ted talk called “the demise of guys” I started getting so fascinated by this, and I am a 26 year old male. I don’t read this and get vexed, or defensive, I get worried. I have been watching myself and my friends fill their days with nothing for the past 8 years, and I was intuitively aware that this was bigger than my peer group. I’m a filmmaker and I really want to do a documentary about Gen Y young males, specifically males born between 1983 – 1993…I’m telling you, first hand, this writer/blogger whatever, and Kindlon’s book…their right. This shit is real, sure it’s a general, sure there are guys out there that don’t blaze weed and play xbox all day but I’m telling you the amount that do, and moreover, the about that do and don’t seem to have any awareness of how they are governing their lives…it’s crazy. So my advice to the dudes that read is..chill, you know how to do that anyway, chill, reflect on what’s being said here and start observing. Take this knowledge and venture outside and consciously watch the behaviour of a group of young males. It’s time to wake up boys. I’ve gone back to sleep many times believe me, and as humans we live in constant flux…but just do it! Buy the t-shirt if you have to, get up and stay up.

By: Independentpro129

Independentpro129 — Thu, 22 Mar 2012 20:03:00 +0000

I agree with Ben that Gen y women ages 18 to 34 (and some older females) are emasculating men, but that is a good thing, because the “old macho” is a synonym for war and violence. The “NEW” man is peaceful, kind, and understanding – something that the conservative media doesn’t understand. It will be feminine men that will bring about world peace sooner or later. Also, as to the comment by Chris about the generation start/end dates, I have to say that based on his experiences, the book “Generation We” (a MUST – read for sociologists), and studies estimating that 1993 or ’94 marked the first year that women barely outnumbered men in college, I’d say that Millenials were first born anywhere between 1975 and ’78.

By: deep think

deep think — Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:38:00 +0000

I am getting so sick and tired of women thinking that the only contrabution men have made is with their muscles. Now that brain power is needed these women think men are going to loose out to their brainer sisters. How insulting and how inacurate. There is no evidence that women are brainer than men. Women are the beneficeries of an educational system that is girl centered and riged to play to the strength of the female and the weakness of males that coupled with the fact that girls mature faster than boys thus handicaping males. But in every specie the more intelligent the spiece is the longer it takes to mature so girls maturing faster than boys might be an indication that ultimately boys are the brainer gender.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:59:00 +0000

Thanks “WOW”. But something tells me your barely-literate rant probably doesn’t negate the fact that, despite a few social problems in both sexes, women continue outperform and out-graduate men in the United States (the latter at a rate of 3 to 2). Surely that has to be worth something in the longer term. And by that I mean, even if some women are in trouble, men are clearly in bigger trouble.

By: WOW

WOW — Fri, 11 Nov 2011 08:06:00 +0000

Haha wow I have never read such a biased article! I think you’re missing the ridiculous amount of class many Gen Y men carry and the dropping morals and dignity of Gen Y woman. It is now woman who cheat on men and men who carry themselves with class and dignity. I’m not saying ever Gen Y woman is a slut, that would be ridiculous, but I would like you to really look into the skyrocketing cases of woman sleeping around, fighting like dogs and losing all progress women’s rights protests. Again I’m not saying men don’t do this because they do but the difference is they have been genetically programmed to do so, women haven’t been. Society on women’s side is turning to shit very, very fast due to the images they are being exposed to at an early age.

By: IndianGenXGal

IndianGenXGal — Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:38:16 +0000

I can understand your enthusiasm for a female dominated future that the research hypothesizes. I think looking at history, it would be a natural reaction, where a long suppressed entity feels euphoric about its success and uses this success as an evidence of future dominance. China and India throwing America in the dumpsters is another such hypothesis which is based on a similar premise. As some commentator mentioned, what you are seeing is women (and India and China ;) )rightfully claiming their places in the world, however whether they tip the equilibrium in their favor is an eventuality that cannot be predicted with any level of certainty, there simply are too many variables.
I work in a male-dominated Silicon Valley, and given the kind of awesome male talent I have seen, at least the Silicon Valley is surely gonna have its proportionate share of male leaders way into the distant future.

By: work till you drop!

work till you drop! — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:25:08 +0000

Cool then! I’ll just sit on my butt with many other guys while you “lead” and work yourself to an early grave like men have been doing since the beginning of time. You wanted work you got it! It’s not all it’s cracked up to be though I’ll tell you that much. You can have your career and high wages and high stress life. Let me know how that works out for you. In the meantime, I and other dudes will just kick back and relax with few worries.

By: slweal

slweal — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 21:26:22 +0000

Disclaimer: Although I’ve read the article several times, I have not gone through all the comments, so I am unsure if this point has been brought up before.

In regards to marriage being a “cure” for the unmotivated male, perhaps rather than a causation relationship- where males who get married tend to have greater motivation- there is a correlation. In other words, the types of males who get married tend to be more motivated before marriage ever enters the picture and they are more likely to get married and start a family because of their motivated personality, not the other way around.

I highly doubt if marriage would change many of the unmotivated men I see around me in college. I agree they need to “grow up”, but I don’t think a wife will do it.

In my economics class we learned that married men get a discount on their car insurance. This is because married men on average tend to drive more safely than their single friends. Nonetheless, marriage is not what causes these men to drive safer. Rather, it is the more calm and responsible attitude these men posses that draw them to marriage in the first place.