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	<description>Kontrary is a different take on careers, tech, marketing, start-ups, and life for creatives and professionals by Rebecca Thorman.</description>
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		<title>By: Clare</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6151</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate the saying that &quot;You can get whatever you want if you put your mind to it.&quot;  For those of you that believe in it, how do you handle roadblocks or challenges like someone telling you you can&#039;t?  or what do you do when you put all your efforts into something to discover that you hate it?

I&#039;m working part-time and going to college full-time.  I think what&#039;s hindering me from getting the job I want is lacking the academic credentials and the potential of failure. :/
A skill-set suitcase is defined by how you&#039;ve handled yourself or other people in the various experiences you&#039;ve had in your life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the saying that &#8220;You can get whatever you want if you put your mind to it.&#8221;  For those of you that believe in it, how do you handle roadblocks or challenges like someone telling you you can&#8217;t?  or what do you do when you put all your efforts into something to discover that you hate it?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working part-time and going to college full-time.  I think what&#8217;s hindering me from getting the job I want is lacking the academic credentials and the potential of failure. :/<br />
A skill-set suitcase is defined by how you&#8217;ve handled yourself or other people in the various experiences you&#8217;ve had in your life.</p>
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		<title>By: AndreaVLewis</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6150</link>
		<dc:creator>AndreaVLewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for this post Rebecca.  I&#039;m living this post right now.  After being unhappy for years in digital media on the Advertising Agency side, I&#039;ve decided to follow my passion and pursue a career in social media on the Client or Publisher side.  It&#039;s scary and risky at the same time, but I know it&#039;s a necessity in order to live a happy, healthy, productive work/home life.

As always, you offer great, inspiring advice that EVERYONE should take part in, or else, just be aware of.  =] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this post Rebecca.  I&#8217;m living this post right now.  After being unhappy for years in digital media on the Advertising Agency side, I&#8217;ve decided to follow my passion and pursue a career in social media on the Client or Publisher side.  It&#8217;s scary and risky at the same time, but I know it&#8217;s a necessity in order to live a happy, healthy, productive work/home life.</p>
<p>As always, you offer great, inspiring advice that EVERYONE should take part in, or else, just be aware of.  =] </p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Messick</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6149</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Messick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing as valuable as your skill-set and ability to transfer those skills from a job you may not be too thrilled about into one that will be more fulfilling and make you happier. 

The only thing that came to mind for me was the talents vs. skills question. I see skills as something you can learn, improve upon, gather through education either formally or on the job. But talents - I see that as something you have to have an innate predisposition for and then of course can improve upon. 

Some may say this is only in the creative industries - you can&#039;t be an opera singer without some innate ability - but I think it applies to other areas as well. Some people are born leaders and will naturally be a better fit in leadership positions than those who had to simply learn it along the way. Not to say you can&#039;t learn, just that there are some areas where many of us might find ourselves starting with a handicap. 

Great post Rebecca - very thought provoking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing as valuable as your skill-set and ability to transfer those skills from a job you may not be too thrilled about into one that will be more fulfilling and make you happier. </p>
<p>The only thing that came to mind for me was the talents vs. skills question. I see skills as something you can learn, improve upon, gather through education either formally or on the job. But talents &#8211; I see that as something you have to have an innate predisposition for and then of course can improve upon. </p>
<p>Some may say this is only in the creative industries &#8211; you can&#8217;t be an opera singer without some innate ability &#8211; but I think it applies to other areas as well. Some people are born leaders and will naturally be a better fit in leadership positions than those who had to simply learn it along the way. Not to say you can&#8217;t learn, just that there are some areas where many of us might find ourselves starting with a handicap. </p>
<p>Great post Rebecca &#8211; very thought provoking!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Thorman</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6148</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Thorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Lilian - Thanks so much for your comment. I&#039;m thrilled to have you as a reader; I wish I would have learned this stuff at your age (oh man, do I sound old now? Ha.) Looking forward to more comments from you : )

@ Jules - I too have learned more by job-hunting, but I think you can also learn by sticking to one job. It&#039;s the mindset as you mention that if you&#039;re hungry for success, you&#039;ll reach it. Thanks for sharing your experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Lilian &#8211; Thanks so much for your comment. I&#8217;m thrilled to have you as a reader; I wish I would have learned this stuff at your age (oh man, do I sound old now? Ha.) Looking forward to more comments from you : )</p>
<p>@ Jules &#8211; I too have learned more by job-hunting, but I think you can also learn by sticking to one job. It&#8217;s the mindset as you mention that if you&#8217;re hungry for success, you&#8217;ll reach it. Thanks for sharing your experience!</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Yim</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6147</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules Yim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rebecca, 

I feel that most humans, if they want something badly enough, will find ways and means to procure it.

There will always be those who are hungry for success and mobility, and I&#039;m pretty sure their hunger gives them the energy to go get what they want (I&#039;m a hungry one). :)

I learnt far more from job-hopping or rather being headhunted than I would have by sticking to one job. As you say employers look for people who can bring in results.

Dealing with people isn&#039;t easy or pretty, but I think what has helped me a lot is that I treat people the way I&#039;d want to be treated. A simple way of life, yet so effective both in personal and professional life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rebecca, </p>
<p>I feel that most humans, if they want something badly enough, will find ways and means to procure it.</p>
<p>There will always be those who are hungry for success and mobility, and I&#8217;m pretty sure their hunger gives them the energy to go get what they want (I&#8217;m a hungry one). :)</p>
<p>I learnt far more from job-hopping or rather being headhunted than I would have by sticking to one job. As you say employers look for people who can bring in results.</p>
<p>Dealing with people isn&#8217;t easy or pretty, but I think what has helped me a lot is that I treat people the way I&#8217;d want to be treated. A simple way of life, yet so effective both in personal and professional life.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6146</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rebecca! I&#039;ve been reading your blog for the past few weeks, but this is my first comment. To be honest, I don&#039;t know enough about job-seeking or experience (...I&#039;m only 14.)  to have an input on this. Still, some of the blog posts you wrote gave me inspiration, a different outlook on life and what I want to do with it. Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rebecca! I&#8217;ve been reading your blog for the past few weeks, but this is my first comment. To be honest, I don&#8217;t know enough about job-seeking or experience (&#8230;I&#8217;m only 14.)  to have an input on this. Still, some of the blog posts you wrote gave me inspiration, a different outlook on life and what I want to do with it. Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Thorman</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6145</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca Thorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Matt - Yeah, and to also know that even feeling trapped or being unhappy is teaching you a lot for your next job. Thanks for the comment!

@ Marian - I&#039;m with you - the idea that everything is connected and systems thinking are both themes that I think a lot about and apply them to my career. I think if more people did, they&#039;d be happier. 

@ David - I love research and it&#039;s easy to delve into a new field with that idea. The co-founders of Alice have a recurring theme - disintermediation in industries to bring more value back to the consumer, but have delved into completely new industries with each start-up they create. Smart guys : )

@ Jaym - Sorry to hear about your troubles! I think if you just took it one tiny step at a time you may be able to get to your end destination easier. Sometimes it&#039;s not about jumping into a new career right away but taking those baby steps. 

@ Lance - Yes, good distinction - I agree with you that it&#039;s demonstrated results. But you don&#039;t need to have those demonstrated results in some special job. I continually go back to the lessons and results from the job I had throughout college - it&#039;s probably prepared more for any job than any other job I&#039;ve had since. 

@ Thanh - Love those thoughts. I too agree that you don&#039;t need to be an entrepreneur or career renegade to be happy in your career. I know many, many individuals in large, established companies that are extremely happy. Which is good news for those who may secretly want to be a salesperson or insurance agent or something : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Matt &#8211; Yeah, and to also know that even feeling trapped or being unhappy is teaching you a lot for your next job. Thanks for the comment!</p>
<p>@ Marian &#8211; I&#8217;m with you &#8211; the idea that everything is connected and systems thinking are both themes that I think a lot about and apply them to my career. I think if more people did, they&#8217;d be happier. </p>
<p>@ David &#8211; I love research and it&#8217;s easy to delve into a new field with that idea. The co-founders of Alice have a recurring theme &#8211; disintermediation in industries to bring more value back to the consumer, but have delved into completely new industries with each start-up they create. Smart guys : )</p>
<p>@ Jaym &#8211; Sorry to hear about your troubles! I think if you just took it one tiny step at a time you may be able to get to your end destination easier. Sometimes it&#8217;s not about jumping into a new career right away but taking those baby steps. </p>
<p>@ Lance &#8211; Yes, good distinction &#8211; I agree with you that it&#8217;s demonstrated results. But you don&#8217;t need to have those demonstrated results in some special job. I continually go back to the lessons and results from the job I had throughout college &#8211; it&#8217;s probably prepared more for any job than any other job I&#8217;ve had since. </p>
<p>@ Thanh &#8211; Love those thoughts. I too agree that you don&#8217;t need to be an entrepreneur or career renegade to be happy in your career. I know many, many individuals in large, established companies that are extremely happy. Which is good news for those who may secretly want to be a salesperson or insurance agent or something : )</p>
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		<title>By: Thanh Lu</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6144</link>
		<dc:creator>Thanh Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 22:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many versions of education. The technical side as well as those transferable skills: communications, leadership, personal development and success mentality. I have friends who are successful in the traditional career path as well as those career blazers that define their opportunities. 

I believe that today and the future to come have so much opportunities to be traditional or not. The big point is that one is responsible and happy with their choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many versions of education. The technical side as well as those transferable skills: communications, leadership, personal development and success mentality. I have friends who are successful in the traditional career path as well as those career blazers that define their opportunities. </p>
<p>I believe that today and the future to come have so much opportunities to be traditional or not. The big point is that one is responsible and happy with their choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance Haun</title>
		<link>http://kontrary.com/2010/01/25/can-you-have-any-job/#comment-6143</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Haun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Very few employers are actually looking for someone with high level of expertise in a topic, but rather someone who can gain results. This is especially true the higher up the ladder you get.&quot;

They are looking for people who have &lt;b&gt;demonstrated&lt;/b&gt; sustained results. And the higher up you go, the more critical those past results are to your future. 

With respect to Ms. Bartz, she gained her position at Yahoo based on that. The demonstrative part. 

So can you have any job you want? Probably not. Some jobs (like President of the US) are practically statistical and situational flukes. But can you have most jobs? Yes. Eventually. 

Experience matters. Not necessarily the rigid way we often use to think of experience (which I do agree with you on). And results matter. Not just one or two years of results. Multiple years of results, under different circumstances and market pressures led to Ms. Bartz taking over Yahoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Very few employers are actually looking for someone with high level of expertise in a topic, but rather someone who can gain results. This is especially true the higher up the ladder you get.&#8221;</p>
<p>They are looking for people who have <b>demonstrated</b> sustained results. And the higher up you go, the more critical those past results are to your future. </p>
<p>With respect to Ms. Bartz, she gained her position at Yahoo based on that. The demonstrative part. </p>
<p>So can you have any job you want? Probably not. Some jobs (like President of the US) are practically statistical and situational flukes. But can you have most jobs? Yes. Eventually. </p>
<p>Experience matters. Not necessarily the rigid way we often use to think of experience (which I do agree with you on). And results matter. Not just one or two years of results. Multiple years of results, under different circumstances and market pressures led to Ms. Bartz taking over Yahoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaym Esch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaym Esch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say the answer to &quot;any job&quot; is no, based on my experiences.

I&#039;m almost 38, and have been unemployed 8 years because of a combination of suffering from Generalized Anxiety Disorder and losing my former career (Virtual Reality/Multimedia Development for Training) due to how the entire industry is run (inappropriate deadlines, 7 days a week work, office politics, etc.)

I&#039;d need to switch careers, but can&#039;t go back to school because I have a degree, so I&#039;m not eligible for a grant. (Can&#039;t go into debt with loans, if they&#039;d clear my credit rating.)

My experiences were all niche tools, etc. If I try to hire for web development, a company is going to take one of the thousands of college grads fully fluent in 12 scripting languages over me, with knowledge over the deveopment cycle.

Ideally, I&#039;d love to be able to develop games. Well, there ate no game studios in my city. Besides not wanting to move, moving is not automatic. You must have a place to move, moving costs, first/last month&#039;s rent, security deposit, etc. Also a good credit rating- (mine was destroyed by an employer not paying me over $7800.)

I&#039;ve been stuck for 8 years trying to figure out what I can do, and can&#039;t solve the issue. Those who can run blindly into an entirely new career are a rare breed, and some of us will never have that ability!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say the answer to &#8220;any job&#8221; is no, based on my experiences.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost 38, and have been unemployed 8 years because of a combination of suffering from Generalized Anxiety Disorder and losing my former career (Virtual Reality/Multimedia Development for Training) due to how the entire industry is run (inappropriate deadlines, 7 days a week work, office politics, etc.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d need to switch careers, but can&#8217;t go back to school because I have a degree, so I&#8217;m not eligible for a grant. (Can&#8217;t go into debt with loans, if they&#8217;d clear my credit rating.)</p>
<p>My experiences were all niche tools, etc. If I try to hire for web development, a company is going to take one of the thousands of college grads fully fluent in 12 scripting languages over me, with knowledge over the deveopment cycle.</p>
<p>Ideally, I&#8217;d love to be able to develop games. Well, there ate no game studios in my city. Besides not wanting to move, moving is not automatic. You must have a place to move, moving costs, first/last month&#8217;s rent, security deposit, etc. Also a good credit rating- (mine was destroyed by an employer not paying me over $7800.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been stuck for 8 years trying to figure out what I can do, and can&#8217;t solve the issue. Those who can run blindly into an entirely new career are a rare breed, and some of us will never have that ability!</p>
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